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Volume 0296

ERB ECLECTICA 2000.02.25
MOTES & QUOTES No. 8
Part of the ERBzine Eclectica Series

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CONTENTS

1. The Call of the Primitive by ERB featured in Zoetrope All-Story
2. AMC Reviews Tarzan and the Green Goddess
3. Adventures of Tarzan starring Elmo Lincoln
4. Duration of John Carter's stay in Korad: A contradiction by Fredrik Ekman
5. Analog Readers' Poll - 1966
6. OB Writes Home II
7. Letters... We Get Letters ~ Australia ~ Remembering ERB
8. Eddie Gilbert Hospitalized
TARZAN OF THE APES
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Zoetrope All-Story
Zoetrope: All-Story
Zoetrope: [fr. Gk. zoe, life + tropos, turning, changing]: an optical toy that converts a series of pictures of successive attitudes into the semblance of continuous motion: wheel of life: life revolution
This month's edition of Francis Copolla's online pulp zine features The Call of the Primitive, an excerpt from ERB's first Tarzan novel, Tarzan of the Apes, which first appeared in the October 1912 edition of All-Story pulp magazine.

The magazine may be viewed on screen, downloaded as a single Adobe Acrobat PDF file or purchased in hard copy form. Back issues are available.

Zoetrope: All-Story considers submissions of stories and one-act plays under 7,000 words; screenplays, treatments, and excerpts from larger works are not accepted. First serial rights and a film option are required. Submissions accompanied by an SASE will receive a response within five months. Send to 1350 Avenue of the Americas, 24th Floor, New York, NY 10019.


The AMC Network has had a number of Tarzan marathons and have run TARZAN AND THE GREEN GODDESS a number of times.  The following promo blurb and reviews by fans have been featured on their website:
www.amctv.com

TARZAN AND THE GREEN GODDESS  (1938) (1:14)
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Two expeditions set off in search of creamy salad dressing. Not! This one was filmed in Guatemala, with Jiggs the Chimp in fine form.   This one was filmed in Guatemala, with Jiggs the Chimp in fine form.
Rate This Movie!

Tarzan And The Green Goddess (7.50 stars average)

10 stars
You have to love a movie that in its title that seems to be trip to africa over salad dressing. Oy what a shlpp reviewed by green goddess can be fating
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7 stars
IF BRUCE BENNET IS STILL LIVING THEN HE IS THE OLDEST LIVING TARZAN OF THE MOVIES. EDGAR RICE BURROUGHS SAID MR BENNET WAS HIS FAVORITE TARZAN BECAUSE HIS PORTRAYAL WAS MORE ACCORDING TO THE CHARACTER HE HAD IN MIND. THIS IS A GOOD ADVENTURE WITH LOTS OF VIOLENCE ........ THIS WAS FILMED ON LOCATION....... GUATAMALA SO THE SOUND CREW HAD A FEW PROBLEMS AND A LOT OF THE CAST FELL ILL...ITS STILL A GOOD ACTION PACKED TARZAN ADVENTURE. BRUCE BENNET (HERMAN BRIX) WAS AN OLYMPIC CHAMPION.   reviewed by KEN CELLI
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7 stars
Burroughs himself picked Herman Brix (Bruce Bennett) to play Tarzan...HIS TARZAN..and Brix does an excellent job. Too bad MGM was so afraid that people would prefer the real TArzan character over MGM's Weismueller "me talk dumb" version that they pressured the theaters not to show the Brix/Bennett ones. But they were big favorites overseas! Filmed in Guatemala, the picture quality and sound are sub-par technically ... but this was because of conditions they encountered while filming. Brix in fact was chosen before Weismueller originally but got hurt filming another movie and JW was then picked. For fans of the true Tarzan!
reviewed by William Armstrong
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6 stars
A step up from the MGM films of an ignorant Tarzan that speaks slow and dumb.Its nice to see Greystoke Manour in a film and not some stupid tree house.Bruce Bennet was also married to Joan Burroughs, Edgar's little girl. What's really interesting is that both Bruce and Joan played Lord John "Tarzan" and Lady Greystoke on the radio. Bruce Bennet is a good lord of the jungle. BUT THAT JUNGLE CRY... PLEASE!!! That's my review and I'm sticking to it!
reviewed by Allen Wilcox



3. ADVENTURES OF TARZAN Starring ELMO LINCOLN
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THE ADVENTURES OF TARZAN

This 1921 silent feature which stars Elmo Lincoln, the screen's first Tarzan, is based loosely on The Jewels of Opar by Edgar Rice Burroughs. Tarzan fights Bolsheviks who kidnap Jane and are out to ruin his family name. Silent with music score. Running Time: 60 minutes.

Learn more about Elmo Lincoln in ERBzin-e 283:
My Father, Elmo Lincoln: The Original Tarzan by Elmo's daughter: Marci'a Lincoln Rudolph



4. The duration of John Carter's stay in Korad: A contradiction

By: Fredrik Ekman

"On the seventh day following the battle with the air craft we again took up the march toward Thark."

Thus writes John Carter of his departure from the city Korad, where he learned the ways of the green men of Thark, and where he met his incomparable princess Dejah Thoris. "On the seventh day," he writes. Before that week he had already spent four days in Korad. First there was one night before the return to the incubator, then the battle with the air crafts of Helium took place on the "third day after the incubator ceremony". This gives a total of eleven days.

This seems perfectly clear and irrefutable. But does it really reflect the time from John Carter's arrival upon Mars until the day that he left Korad? Consider the following:

There is no question about the first four days. But then, after first setting eyes upon Dejah Thoris, John Carter does not see her again "for several days", after which follow "a few more days" during which he "nearly drove Sola distracted by my importunities to hasten on my education." On the day following this period, he fights for Dejah Thoris in the audience chamber, and it is not until after that incident that Tars Tarkas starts instructing him "in many of the customs and arts of war familiar to the Tharks." During this time John Carter learns the mastery of the thoats and in "the course of a few days my thoats were the wonder of the entire community". Then, finally, on "the evening before our departure," he again meets with Dejah Thoris.

Adding up the above, and assuming "several" to mean three and "a few" to mean two, we arrive at a departure, not after eleven days, but after thirteen. Even by reducing "several" to two departure takes place on the twelfth day.

So, what does all this signify? Nothing more and nothing less than that Burroughs goofed slightly. Personally, I choose to ignore the mentioning of the "seventh day", leaning instead toward another time period, quoted after the shooting down of the Heliumetic craft:

"The cavalcade was returning to the plaza, the homeward march having been given up for that day; nor, in fact, was it recommenced for more than a week, owing to the fear of a return attack by the air craft."

Note the significance of the word "more" in the above sentence.

My theory is that the Tharks marched from Korad on the tenth or eleventh day following the capture of Dejah Thoris and the fourteenth or fifteenth following John Carter's advent on Mars.

Footnote: All quotes are from the on-line version of A Princess of Mars, which in turn is based on the Del Rey printing of 1980.



5. Analog Readers Poll - 1966
The November 1966 issue of Analog published the results of a readers poll ranking their favourite authors.It was based on  414 votes from readers in 14 countries.

1 Isaac Asimov
2. Robert Heinlein
3. Arther C. Clarke
4. A.E. Van Vogt
5. Poul Anderson
6. HG Wells
7 Clifford Simak
8 Theodore Sturgeon
9  Ray Bradbury
10 Murry Leinster & Dr. Edward E. Smith  (tie)
11. Andre Norton
12 Eric Frank russel
13.  Henry Kuttner and CL Moore
14. L. Sprague de Camp
15. Alfred Bester
16. Edgar Rice Burroughs
17. James Blish

Top ranked novels were:

1. Isaac Asimov--Foundation Trilogy (67%)
2. Seven Famous Novels of H.G. Wells (60%)
3. A.E. Van Vogt  Slan 51%
4. Iaac Asimov  --The Rest of the Robots  45%
5. Alfred Bester --The Demolished Man 44%
6. Arthur C. Clarke -- Childhood's End
7. Arthur C. Clarke --- The City and the Stars (41%) including votes for
the earlier version -- Against the Fall of Night
8. Ray bradbury, The Martian Chronicles 39%
9 Clifford D. Smiak, City (39%)
10 Walter M. Miller, Jr. -- A Canticle for Leibowitz (38%)
11. Robert Heinlein, -- Starship Troopers
12. Isaac Asimov, I Robot
13. W. Olaf Stapledon -- To the End of Time
14. Robert Heinlein -- The Man who Sold the Moon
15 Hal Clement ---  Mission of Gravity
16 Alfred Bester, The Stars My Destination
17. Robert Heinlein -- Stranger in a Strange Land
18. AE van Vogt --The World of Null A
19. Theodore Sturgeon --  More than Human
20. Raymond J. Healy & J. Francis McComas - Adventures in Time and Space
21. Frank Herbert -- Dune
22. Fredrik Pohl & CM Kornbluth, The Space Mrchants
23  John Wyndham, Rebirth
24  Robert Heinlein, Waldo  and Magic Inc
25 A.E. Van vogt  -- The Weapon Shops of Isher
26. Robert Heinlein -- Methusaleh's Children
27. Clifford D. Simak --  Way Station
 
 



6. OB WRITES HOME II
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Lanikai, Oahu, T.H.
June 17, 1940

My Dear Children:

Thanks a lot for your Father's Day radiogram. It was very sweet
of you to think of me. It was telephoned to me yesterday after-
noon shortly after I returned from a week-end fishing trip at
Waianae, which I have marked with a red circle on one of the en-
closed maps.

We fished all Saturday afternoon and got up before sunrise and
fished all Sunday morning. During all that time no one got a
srike. We were out in Dudley Lewis' 33' sampan hoping for a
marlin or a broadbill. There are terrific ground swells on that
side of the island, and with a choppy sea the boat lunged and rol-
led constantly; so Jack Halliday got seasick, and about two hours
before we came in I followed his example.

I was wet and filthy and hot and sick, and I aint never goin'
fishin' no more.

We saw hundreds of poroises, which played around the boat. That
was interesting. A Portugese along with us said to me, "There is
an Eva." I finally located it - a trim black bird faced with
white - a Man-o'-War Bird. Thirsting for knowledge, I asked how
they spelled Eva, knowing full well that it wouldn't be Eva at all;
and it isn't - it's Iwa. If you will look southeast of Waianae
you will see the town of Ewa. This is pronounced eva.

I sent a map to one of you; Joan, I think. The two enclosed are
for the other branches of the family.

The Waianae district is as different from the rest of the island
as Arizona is from northern California. That side of the Waianae
Range is as barren as Arizona mountains; the grass and weeds along
the highway are burned and brown. It rains there only a little
and just during the winter months, whereas it rains five or six
times a week on our side of the island. The rains, brought by
the northeast trades, are stopped by the Koolau and Waianae Ranges.

Again, thanks a million for the radiogram.

Aloha nui nui !
OB
#17
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7. LETTERS... WE GET LETTERS
Remembering ERB

Dear Bill & Sue
Thank you very much indeed for your kind & swift response to my enquiry. It is great to meet kindred spirits! My father (1911-1992) introduced me to Mr Burroughs exciting world when I was very young and told me of their meeting when ERB visited my fathers regiment while fighting the Japenese invaders in New Guinea in 1945. I recall him telling me on his return Mr Burroughs was a very "large" man and the oldest war correspondent he met while on active service at the "front". I remember being very impressed to learn my father had actually met my boyhood hero but also a little disappointed that he did not appear ro resemble either Tarzan or even Captain Jack Carter of Virginia very closely! In case you had not already guessed I have come to the wonderful world of electronic contact quite late in life,my family presenting me with a magnificent PC on my retirement and telling me to have fun! A little like tossing the keys of a Rolls Royce to a caveman and expecting him to drive happily into the twilight without a backward glance! Perhaps they have more faith in me than I have!  So please excuse any initial fimbling while I try to join you .
Kind regards, Andrew Melrose, Sydney, Australia
ajmelrose@primus.com.au



8. Eddie Gilbert Hospitalized

Dejah - Mr. Gilbert - JoN
Eddie Gilbert with the Hillmans

Special booklet prepared by Eddie Gilbert for the '99 Dum-Dum
Eddie Gilbert, brother of Florence -- ERB's second wife, is in hospital recovering from a heart by-pass operation. I am sure that he would like to hear from ERB fans and especially those he met at the Tarzana Dum-Dum '99. Send your cards and letters to:

Edward Gilbert
Room  2218
Providence-ST. Joseph's Medical Center
501 S. Buena Vista
Burbank, CA  91505
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